Until the 1980s, we knew that the relatively low levels of benefit fraud would be offset by unclaimed benefits by miles. Then someone hit on the notion of demonising the unemployed, and all our political parties decided that was a very good way to whip up fury to distract from economic failure. Now we don't talk about benefits outside those terms. We don't talk about why women are the main receivers of benefits, we don't talk about the cost of providing god knows how many layers of ineffective services to treat symptoms of preventable poverty.  We don't talk about the £4billion lost in error, because the entire system geared towards prevent 1% of benefit fraud. Political debate does that. Obscures reality. Quite effectively.